Great question 👍 — Kotlin and Groovy both go far beyond Android SDK, but in quite different directions. Here’s a breakdown:
🚀 Kotlin (outside Android)
Kotlin has grown into a general-purpose JVM language (and even beyond JVM):
Backend development
- Popular in Spring Boot apps (officially supported by Spring team).
- Frameworks like Ktor (from JetBrains) built in Kotlin for writing REST APIs, microservices.
- Used in cloud/serverless functions (AWS Lambda, Google Cloud Functions).
Multiplatform development
Kotlin Multiplatform (KMP): Share business logic across Android, iOS, desktop, and web.
Used in cross-platform libraries and SDKs (e.g., by Square, JetBrains).
Desktop applications
Compose Multiplatform lets you build desktop UIs for Windows, macOS, Linux.
Competes with frameworks like JavaFX.
Web development
Data science & scripting
Libraries like KotlinDL (deep learning), Kotlin DataFrame, and Jupyter Notebook support.
Being explored in data engineering pipelines.
⚡ Groovy (outside Android)
Groovy stays strongest in automation, scripting, and JVM integration:
Build automation
- Gradle: Groovy is the original DSL for Gradle build scripts (still widely used).
CI/CD pipelines
Scripting language
Embedded in Java apps to provide scripting capabilities.
Used for quick automation, file processing, system scripts (like Python/Ruby).
Enterprise & frameworks
Apache Groovy ecosystem: libraries like GPars (concurrency), Spock (testing framework).
Grails Framework: A full-stack web framework (like Rails, but JVM-based).
Testing
🔑 Quick Comparison of “other uses”
| Language | Key Non-Android Uses |
| ---------- | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Kotlin | Spring Boot, Ktor, Multiplatform (KMP), Compose Desktop, Kotlin/JS, Data science |
| Groovy | Jenkins pipelines, Gradle builds, Grails web framework, Spock testing, scripting |
👉 So, Kotlin is growing in application development (apps, services, cross-platform), while Groovy dominates in tooling and automation (builds, pipelines, testing).
Would you like me to create a mind map–style diagram showing the “ecosystem & use cases” of Kotlin vs Groovy so it’s easier to visualize where each language is strong?